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More Flights At LGB........

12/6/2015

 
This Tuesday, December 8th the city council and public will be presented with a study session on why LGB Director, Bryant Francis, is authorized to add 9 additional flight slots at our airport.

After speaking with Assistant City Attorney, Mike Mais I understand their rationale.  What I don't understand is the conflicting reports from previous years.

Several years back we were advised that IF there were ZERO noise violations LGB could add a maximum of 11 additional flights.  Now we know that is next to impossible because of delays due to weather and mechanicals.  We know because many 4th, 7th and 8th district residents have made those complaint calls in the early morning hours when their sleep or quiet time has been disrupted by an arrival or departure outside of the allowable time frames.  We know because of the fines that Jet Blue has paid to the Long Beach Library Foundation.  So, Tuesday's presentation will be interesting to hear. 

We are one of 5 cities in the nation that was allowed a noise ordinance when ANCA was created in the mid-90's.  It was blessed because Long Beach had an ordinance in place.  An ordinance that was being challenged in a 12 year court battle by dozens of commercial carriers!

The most recent threat was made by American Airlines. In 2002 AA demanded 4 additional slots because of the way that Jet Blue had been awarded 27 slots and then allowed to hold them without using them, as they ramped up their west coast services.  Through effective dialogue our city attorney was able to influence Jet Blue to relinquish those 4 flight slots and American Airlines dropped their threat.  This AA document will soon be added to our site for your review.

This noise ordinance is our thin veil of protection.  Protection for residents who live within the flight paths. Protection for property tax dollars that are the number one source of revenue for our general fund.  Protection for all of Long Beach who benefit from higher tax dollars generated from established neighborhood communities such as Bixby Knolls, Los Altos and Cal Heights. 

The loss of this coveted noise ordinance could result in the same consequences experienced by the Westchester, Vista del Mar neighborhoods  near LAX.  This is why it is critical that our elected mayor and council members clearly and accurately comprehend the implications of each one of their decisions relating to LGB.  The next decision that will  come before them will be whether or not to approve the Jet Blue request for international flights.  More on that soon..........

Check in later this week for your invitation to join us for the upcoming rally! 
Jeanne Williams
12/7/2015 06:08:40 am

Barbara Kalish
12/7/2015 01:47:33 pm

I live just below the inbound air traffic . Enough is enough, . the noise is overwhelming.. No international air lines should be added. Every body wants to make more money, NOT at my expense, Thank you..

Lori Davidson
12/7/2015 06:39:40 pm

I agree! December 15th the City Council is discussing Int'l flights. We're asked to attend to make our voices heard. Joe Sopo called and said 5pm

Joe Tyler
12/7/2015 02:51:22 pm

The annual report was based on 30.4 flights instead of the allowed 41. It claims 50 flights would still be under the noise budget because of quieter planes and not all the allowed spots being used. There are many noise violations now and they will increase with more flights. The report also says more weight results in more noise. International flights with more fuel would be much noisier.

Tom Martin
1/29/2016 08:47:59 pm

Joe,your reasoning is fallacious! More weight does not mean more noise! Compare an F/A-18 to an A-320. An A-320 (flown by jetBlue) make a fraction of the noise the F/A-18 makes, but weight much more.

You are also making a fallacious statement regarding fuel on international versus domestic flights. A flight to Boston is 2,600 miles, a flight to JFK is 2,500 miles. Flight to Guadaljara or Los Cabos are half the distance - I doubt they would take more fuel than a flight to BOS or JFK.

And according to the airport's own data, air carrier noise violations are down 28% and general aviation noise violations are down 15% - both YTD.

John Murray
12/7/2015 06:22:24 pm

What goes unsaid above is that a strong majority of the airport commissioners, airport management and elected city officials would all like to expand the airport.

Denyse Romero
12/9/2015 06:06:46 am

Council woman Mungo would have more fights and have us sell our homes,so the city would make more tax revenues!


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